tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post1353095852262752294..comments2024-03-27T17:57:42.627+00:00Comments on The Masked AMHP: Who Is Your Nearest Relative?The Masked AMHPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01348865658320780867noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-70266224205789890492022-07-08T23:38:31.600+01:002022-07-08T23:38:31.600+01:00The sibling of the full blood takes precedence ove...The sibling of the full blood takes precedence over the sibling of the half blood..The Masked AMHPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348865658320780867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-19402697205780329172022-07-06T13:13:38.731+01:002022-07-06T13:13:38.731+01:00If my husband and I die, and my adult son does not...If my husband and I die, and my adult son does not have a partner or children, is his younger adult sister his NR as full blood sibling, or his older adult sister as his half blood sibling?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-45995957342473449722022-06-17T08:52:33.907+01:002022-06-17T08:52:33.907+01:00If their permanent address was outside the UK then...If their permanent address was outside the UK then could not be considered to be NR.The Masked AMHPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348865658320780867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-63033129449904829202022-06-15T22:13:30.020+01:002022-06-15T22:13:30.020+01:00Can a relative have NR status if serving/ statione...Can a relative have NR status if serving/ stationed with military overseas...or would NR in this case not be able to be considered as outside of UK?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-19703101042671418972020-02-27T10:37:38.588+00:002020-02-27T10:37:38.588+00:00If the wife considers herself to be permanently se...If the wife considers herself to be permanently separated from the patient, then the NR status would go to the next person on the hierarchy, which would be an adult son or daughter if there was one.The Masked AMHPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348865658320780867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-88133056072029471182020-02-27T07:55:43.832+00:002020-02-27T07:55:43.832+00:00Person on s3 married and was living with wife. wif...Person on s3 married and was living with wife. wife now left the address and appears to have left her spouse permanently. Would the NR now be one of the persons children ??JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15981311791187291964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-68269217875043983032019-04-22T07:18:43.557+01:002019-04-22T07:18:43.557+01:00If you are legally separated, ie if there is a cou...If you are legally separated, ie if there is a court order, then you would not be the NR, even if living at the same address, and even if not actually divorced. However, you might still just squeak in if you have been at the same address for over 5 years, especially if you have had some sort of caring role, even if no longer living together as husband and wife. <br />Is she detained under S.2 or The Masked AMHPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348865658320780867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-51023900232477489652019-04-21T20:14:37.760+01:002019-04-21T20:14:37.760+01:00hi, I am still married to my Wife, separated but l...hi, I am still married to my Wife, separated but live in the same address. I have no official designation as a carer but there is no one else and it seemed that was what was necessary. She has ended up detained under either Section 2 or 3.<br /><br />Could I qualify as NR because of the longterm care or does the wording "cannot" in (permanently separated from your partner they cannot beAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-29615365421868040212016-08-27T17:22:41.279+01:002016-08-27T17:22:41.279+01:00There's case law that states that if there are...There's case law that states that if there are grounds to believe that the NR is abusing or has abused the patient,or if the patient is likely to be harmed by consultation with the NR, then it can be considered "impracticable" to consult. The AMHP then states the reasons for that decision in their report.The Masked AMHPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348865658320780867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-22448406271410573502016-08-27T16:35:08.488+01:002016-08-27T16:35:08.488+01:00someting i've discussed with my partner (who i...someting i've discussed with my partner (who is an AMHP, hence my reading of your blog) is what if the only nearest relative is in fact someone who is abusing the patient, whether by way of violence or otherwise? in my view, it surely can't be right that such a person can have any say whatsoever....but i can't see that the relevant legislation provides any way round it.....Clairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02888698683201580237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-18558098667739025022016-06-05T16:22:59.692+01:002016-06-05T16:22:59.692+01:00I assume you mean that the patient and their daugh...I assume you mean that the patient and their daughter lives with the patient's parents. In that case, it would probably be the daughter, unless one of the parents of the patient was providing substantial care (more than the daughter) to the patient.The Masked AMHPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348865658320780867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-68622235037296294682016-06-04T17:55:27.557+01:002016-06-04T17:55:27.557+01:00Dear masked AMHP if a person with mental illness a...Dear masked AMHP if a person with mental illness aged 40 has a daughter of 19 and they live with her parents 65 who would be her NR..?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-13962361680566776702016-01-16T17:09:35.495+00:002016-01-16T17:09:35.495+00:00If your daughter lives with you, then you should b...If your daughter lives with you, then you should by NR, even if her father is older than you. If she lives with her father, then he would be NR. If she lives with neither of you, but you provide the majority of the care and have the most contact, then you should be regarded as NR.The Masked AMHPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348865658320780867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-88745963505152469882016-01-16T11:26:11.945+00:002016-01-16T11:26:11.945+00:00Help and advise please The Masked AMHP. Prey tell...Help and advise please The Masked AMHP. Prey tell is it true that I as a devoted Mother have no rights as a NR?<br />Ex Husband ( who is my elder and Father of my detained teenage daughter) who has contact with the children probably 9/30 nights a month on average appears to be. Can I contest this as I am the parent who is responsible for the majority of care and attention. Does his numerous Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-66372151082069683852013-01-28T20:12:31.895+00:002013-01-28T20:12:31.895+00:00Good luck!Good luck!The Masked AMHPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348865658320780867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-8047366269021352062013-01-28T19:50:42.783+00:002013-01-28T19:50:42.783+00:00brilliant, passed your test too, hope i'll be ...brilliant, passed your test too, hope i'll be able to pass my real test tomorrow (i'm on amhp training)... Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10416029113218148164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-29068836090957748762012-04-26T22:15:18.877+01:002012-04-26T22:15:18.877+01:00Have any AMHPs had a stab at working out a mathema...Have any AMHPs had a stab at working out a mathematical way of identifying the NR? Along the lines of 20 questions? Or fewer?GED Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-50800332645780016862011-07-25T21:22:08.494+01:002011-07-25T21:22:08.494+01:00I chuckled all the way through, thanks for that, f...I chuckled all the way through, thanks for that, feeling v geeky I passed the test. I hope I will be feeling as confident in the MHA assessments!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-33655715193046559912011-07-12T20:16:48.653+01:002011-07-12T20:16:48.653+01:00Only joking Masked AMHP!
I wouldn't want you...Only joking Masked AMHP! <br /><br />I wouldn't want you to leave the good people with the impression this was an easy job. <br /><br />Also, I think you also work as a BIA: what about a compare and contrast job? Your blog has some excellent stuff and I regularly advertise it in training and the like as the only source of honest discussion about the practical implications for any poor wight Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-18602664154779019732011-07-07T20:55:27.143+01:002011-07-07T20:55:27.143+01:00Hi Anonymous. Thank You for your interesting comme...Hi Anonymous. Thank You for your interesting comments. This is of course only an introduction to the concept of the Nearest Relative under the MHA. I was actually trying to show how fraught it can be. I don't think my readership expect me to go into as much detail as Jones. After all, I want them to enjoy my blog! Pofessionals will know where to go if they have a particularly knotty problem.The Masked aMHPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-46005327491261964542011-07-07T20:30:24.777+01:002011-07-07T20:30:24.777+01:00Very droll.
It's all more complicated doing t...Very droll.<br /><br />It's all more complicated doing this under pressure and only with information from the person themselves or other family members who may have axes to grind to go on. (Your post on the agendas of Nearest Relatives was excellent).<br /><br />I once watched someone trying to identify the nearest relative of a young Somali man. The definition of 'uncle' in this Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-36696302712641006012011-06-04T19:53:40.095+01:002011-06-04T19:53:40.095+01:00must be geeky too as also raised a smile...inspire...must be geeky too as also raised a smile...inspired me to inject a bit more humour into my NR training :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-40958747354289489692011-05-31T15:03:04.318+01:002011-05-31T15:03:04.318+01:00I passed the test ;)I passed the test ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-380213133018137281.post-52444017911781997152011-05-30T18:13:25.907+01:002011-05-30T18:13:25.907+01:00I'm so geeky that I actually chuckled through ...I'm so geeky that I actually chuckled through the post. Great post. I may well print that out and keep it at work :)cbhttp://fightingmonsters.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com